We’re in the early innings of AI, and the playbook for building companies is already changing.
In this episode of SeedToScale, Shekhar Kirani, Partner at Accel, sits down with Jason Graefe, CVP of Microsoft’s AI Partner Catalyst Team, to unpack what’s actually changing in the AI era.
From building products to winning enterprise customers, the playbook is being rewritten in real time.
Jason brings a unique vantage point, working closely with some of the fastest-scaling AI companies globally, while also operating inside Microsoft at the forefront of AI transformation. The insights are practical, grounded, and directly relevant to founders building today.
Here’s what we explore in this episode:
• Why we’re still in the “early innings” of AI, and what that means for founders
• The shift from horizontal AI tools to durable, workflow-driven products
• Why the first enterprise sale is always a trust sale
• How design partners can accelerate product-market fit
• Speed as a moat: why faster iteration is defining winners
• The role of “taste” in building products users actually stick with
• Why go-to-market needs to be built from day one, not as an afterthought
• The “golden age of margin”: reducing costs while creating entirely new products
• India’s structural advantage in building and scaling AI startups
If you’re a founder, builder, or operator trying to understand how to win in the AI cycle, this conversation is a clear, grounded playbook.
Chapters:
0:00 – Introduction
0:58 – India’s startup energy and why this market stands out
2:07 – What’s changed since pre-COVID
3:18 – Global AI ecosystems and where India fits
4:42 – The rise of second-generation founders in India
6:05 – Why startups are scaling faster than ever
7:26 – From Flipkart to AI-native companies: the infra shift
9:12 – Is the AI market already crowded?
10:36 – Why we’re still in the early innings of AI
11:48 – AI in traditional industries: where we actually are
12:31 – The “golden age of margin” explained
13:52 – Startups hitting profitability faster with AI
15:04 – Moving atoms vs moving bits: what AI can’t disrupt easily
17:18 – Where the real opportunities still exist
18:42 – Horizontal vs vertical AI: speed vs durability
20:11 – Building AI products that adapt to enterprises
22:07 – Why personalization creates sticky products
23:34 – Software that feels like it’s built for you
25:02 – Enterprise AI adoption: two buyer behaviors
26:41 – Why the first sale is always a trust sale
28:06 – How to win your first design partners
29:52 – Enterprises are more open than ever to co-building
31:08 – Surviving rapid LLM evolution
32:14 – Taste: the ultimate differentiator in AI products
33:27 – Real-time feedback loops → faster product iteration
34:52 – Speed as the new moat
36:09 – Domain experts vs first-principles builders
37:42 – First-mover advantage in AI
39:03 – How product + GTM cycles are compressing
40:18 – Why GTM must be built from day one
42:06 – Experimentation in go-to-market
43:38 – India as a proving ground for global products
45:11 – Why early customers matter more than big logos
47:02 – Product-led vs forward-deployed models
48:36 – Selling outcomes, not software
50:07 – India’s structural advantage in AI talent
51:19 – The culture of learning driving adoption
52:27 – Outro
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